Crown Firecoach Enthusiasts Club - Southern California Chapter of SPAAMFAA

A Non-profit organization for owners and fans of the fire engines & trucks made by Crown, dedicated to preserving and appreciating the history of the Crown Firecoach

Historial Archives of the Firecoach Division of the Crown Coach Corporation of Los Angeles 



Crown Firecoach Enthusiasts 4th Quarter Membership Meeting

Saturday, November 11, 2017

9:30 AM

at the Historic Fireboat Ralph J. Scott (drydocked)

Harbor Blvd. at 1st Street, San Pedro, CA

PROGRAM: The business meeting will include elections for the five Officers of the Board.  After the meeting, we will have a special tour of the dry-docked Ralph J. Scott Fireboat, a state historical landmark, under restoration by the L.A.F.D. Historical Society (under the large white tent building - see aerial view below).

LUNCH: On your own after the meeting and tour.

RAFFLE: As a reminder, please bring items for the raffle.

NOTE: Nov 11 is Veterans Days and the Iowa may get a crowd. (The observance of Veterans Day as a Federal Holiday is Friday the 10th, when many people will be off work and that may be busier). Saturday the Iowa does not open until 10 am, and our meeting starts at 9:30 am. Everyone should be there no later than 9 am to assure they get a parking spot.

DIRECTIONS AND PARKING INFO : Full details on the Calendar of Events page. Click here.

NOT A MEMBER OF OUR CLUB?: SHOW UP AND ASK TO JOIN ($25/YR includes our great newseltter!)



Did you know that the Ralph J. Scott was repowered by Crown Coach and that three other former LAFD fireboats were partially built by Crown?

Named for a former LAFD Chief Engineer and built at a cost of $214,000, the Ralph J. Scott was christened L.A. Fireboat Number 2 on October 20, 1925. At 99 feet and a pumping capacity of 10,200 gallons per minute, Boat 2 has five large turrets and up to a 6-inch nozzle tip, six pumps, three propellers, nine engines and a 44 foot high elevating turret, the first of its kind in the nation. She had a top speed of 17 knots and a crew of 14 LAFD members. The large 8-inch monitor known as “Big Bertha” could throw a stream of water hundreds of feet with devastating force.

In the mid 1940s, the Crown Coach corporation was hired to repower the Ralph J. Scott and sent engineers to install nine new Hall Scott gasoline engines. In the mid 1970’s all the gasoline engines were replaced with diesel engines. The six Byron Jackson bronze 4-stage centrifugal pumps were never changed. You can read more about the Ralph J. Scott here..

In 1967-68, LAFD replaced 3 older fire boats with new boats built by Drakecraft, based in Los Angeles. Drakecraft subcontracted to Crown to install 750 GPM bronze Waterous pumps as well as the plumbing and monitors. Two identical 34 ft boats were assigned serial number F1524, Boat 3 (LAFD #60215) and Boat 5 (LAFD #60216). The boats were delivered to LAFD in August of 1967. F-1578, a third 34 ft Drakecraft, with a taller pilot house, was built in 1968 and was assigned as Boat 1 (LAFD #60224). She was delivered to LAFD in September, 1968. It should be noted that LAFD hired and paid Drakecraft and Drakecraft hired and paid Crown. Crown is never mentioned in LAFD’s publications and history of their fireboats, but we have the records in the Crown Firecoach archives documenting the significant role played by Crown in the history of the department’s fireboat fleet.

Read more about LAFD's fireboat fleet, past and present, here.



2017 Brian Dierkens Memorial Award

The 2017 Brian Dierkens Memorial Award was presented at this year’s Crusin’ For a Cure Event, September 23, 2017, at the Orange County Fairgrounds in Costa Mesa, CA. Congratulations to 2017 winner, Moses Vaca of the Costa Mesa Fire Department Fire Explorers (pictured center, below, with CFE Board Member and Brian Dierkens Award Commitee Chairperson, Mike McDonald (left) and CFE President Michael Britt (right).

In Memorium

We recently learned of the passing of two long time CFE members:

RoHarold Robert "Bob" Guildig passed away in Phoenix, AZ on August 8, 2017. Bob previously was a resident of Washington State and was the former owner of a 1960 Crown pumper, F-1173 which served the Cowiche FD in Yakima County, WA. Bob was 75 and had been in poor health for a couple of years. His Grandson is in search of the Crown which was sold in 2012, and would like to reacquire it.

Norm Stahlberg of Corona, CA, passed away earlier this year. He was 77. Norm was a retired technical writer and talented graphic artist in industrial design and had an great interest in antique trucks.

Both Bob and Norm will be missed. May they rest in peace.

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